I grew up in a small town in South Jersey. My dad, a World War II veteran, had been
introduced to pizza in Trenton – probably in the 1940s – and he called it
“tomato pie.” So beginning in my youth
and continuing until quite recently, I regarded “pizza” and “tomato pie” as
synonyms. Crust, sauce, cheese. Toppings, optional.
Tomato pie, DeLorenzo's of Trenton. Click any pic to enlarge! |
But during the 1980s on a visit to Denver, I made a phone
call to order bar pizza from the superb Bonnie Brae Tavern. I asked for a “large pie.” After a long silence, the puzzled order-taker
replied “we don’t have pies here, just pizza.”
I tried to clarify, not by saying “tomato pie” but “pizza pie” and that
only helped a little. I learned that “pie” is not universal for pizza.
Pizza in Tuscany - has some overlap with Trenton tomato pie! |
Some opening facts that we’ll explore:
- Pizza and tomato pie are not always synonyms
- Tomato pie has a very specific meaning in Trenton, with some possible overlap in New Haven
- Tomato pie has a very specific meaning in Philly’s western burbs, and it is different than the Trenton version
- Tomato pie has one more meaning, in the South and Midwest, and it’s not even pizza-like
The Southern Tomato Pie
If you Google "tomato pie" you will find Paula
Deen's recipe for one. But the only thing it shares in common with Conshy and
Trenton is that it contains dough, cheese, and tomatoes.
Southern "tomato pie" |
It is tomatoes, basil, mayonnaise, and
cheese, baked in a pastry pie shell. I've never had it. Sound pretty good, but
it surely is not pizza.
The Conshy Tomato Pie
I lived in or near Jersey for many years, and when I
moved to West Chester, PA (45 minutes west of Philly) a few years ago, I
discovered another type of tomato pie. A thoughtful co-worker stopped at the
Conshy Bakery (short for Conshohocken Italian Bakery) and brought in their
signature tomato pie. The Conshy tomato pie is rectangular, pan baked, with
sauce, but with just a sprinkle of cheese post-bake.
Conshy-style tomato pie |
The easiest way to describe it would be a Sicilian pizza
without the cheese. I love it, but I usually feel that I want to add cheese. It
took a trip to Italy, eating some related-but-not-identical rectangle slices of
Roman pizza, for me to gain an appreciation for cheeseless pie. Bottom line, if
the crust and sauce are SO good, the cheese can be a distraction.
An appealing square from Tony Roni's |
The “Famous Conshy Bakery Tomato Pie” is “An 18"x
25" sheet of dough with a homemade tomato sauce spread generously on top
and baked. Cheese, garlic powder, and oil are added after baking." It's typically eaten at room temperature, but I like
to heat it up to get a crisp bottom.
Make sure to click and enlarge this brilliant slice from L&B Spumoni Gardens |
Other Conshy-style tomato pies include the Philly region
mini-chain Tony Roni's (reviewed HERE), Corropolese in Norristown (reviewed HERE), Santucci's, Aversa Bakery, and Cacia's Bakery (reviewed HERE), the
square slice at L&B Spumoni Gardens (reviewed HERE) even though they don't
call it a tomato pie, and even the square slices from New York's Brick Oven
Pizza 33 (reviewed HERE).
Squares from Manhattan's Brick Oven Pizza 33 |
The prettiest tomato pie ever, in Rome |
These are all good or great, but their Roman cousin is
tops for a rectangular pizza product without the cheese (review of Forno Marco Roscioli HERE).
The Trenton Tomato Pie
The Trenton version of tomato pie has cheese, and most
folks would view the round pie as a pizza. But it does have important
characteristics that make it different from Neapolitan pies, the New York
slice, and other legendary pizzas like Totonno's of Coney Island. I've watched
it made at DeLorenzo's (Hudson St., Trenton) and the assembly is reversed from
pizza -- the cheese (conventional shredded aged mozzarella) goes on before the
"sauce" which is mostly crushed tomato.
More great pie from DeLorenzo's |
The "upside-down" pizza. It's not tomato pie |
Other pizzamakers in the Philly area make "upside
down" pizza where the sauce is on top, but those have a blanket of
conventional sauce that completely obscures the cheese and prevents browning. We
tried one at Marzano's in Exton, PA, reviewed HERE; not bad, but not tomato pie. And despite earning kudos from Philadelphia Magazine for its great sauce, Marzano's is now closed.
The best-made tomato pies deliver up a mouthful of tomato
in one bite, and some properly browned cheese in another.
Lining up for tomato pie before DeLorenzo's closed the doors for good |
DeLorenzo's Hudson Street (closed in January 2012, but
lives on in suburban Yardley and Robbinsville; reviewed HERE) is my favorite
"pizza" of all time. Tomato Pie purists would cringe at the pizza term
for a DeLorenzo's tomato pie. There is a Facebook group devoted to Trenton
tomato pie, and the members feel pretty strongly that tomato pie and pizza are
very different.
Pepperoni tomato pie from Papa's in Trenton |
Very close in quality to DeLorenzo's is the superb,
last-tomato-pie-still-in-Trenton Papa's Tomato Pies (reviewed HERE). Note: Papa’s has since relocated to Robbinsville and is as good as ever. Papa's
should be just as much a nationally revered institution as Lombardi's,
Grimaldi's, and DiFara. The "other DeLorenzo's" (the owners are
related, but not affiliated and their product is pizza, not tomato pie) is leaving
Trenton for suburban Hamilton.
What makes Trenton tomato pie so special? A Trenton pie features
a thin and sturdy crust. Crackly outside, but not cracker-like. There is some
chew and hole structure. It is never wet! You would never discard the
cornicione (pizza bones) on a tomato pie. A Trenton pie is defined by the base,
not the toppings. There is no "buffalo chicken tomato pie."
On a Trenton pie, the cheese is a role player (unlike the
soupy puddles of buffalo mozz that float on too many Neapolitan efforts). Crust
first, tomato chunks (not sauce), then cheese, in that order of importance. It
is the perfect canvas on which to drop some chunks of genuine Italian sausage
or slices of pepperoni. Other toppings can work -- garlic, onion, mushrooms,
anchovies -- but it surely would be a crime against nature to order a tomato
pie "with the works."
Close-up of the art of the crust, at Frank Pepe's in New Haven |
A related delight is the New Haven tomato pie, also
called "apizza." I've visited Frank Pepe's (reviewed HERE) which
calls itself Neapolitan, but it clearly is not. Neapolitan pie has a wonderful
crust, but a soft puffy crust. Frank's is delightfully crispy, yet with stellar
hole structure and internal al dente chewiness. You could sell it in Trenton,
call it tomato pie, and get no argument. For me, tomato pie is always better
than Neapolitan.
"Apizza" from Modern Apizza, New Haven |
Apizza in Florida at Nick's |
I also loved New Haven's Sally's Apizza (reviewed HERE), the second-most famous pie
in New Haven, and it is magnificent, Modern Apizza (reviewed HERE) has a crust that is softer than Pepe's and I would not call it tomato pie. It was terrific, but it
was eclipsed by Pepe's, Sally's, and Nick's New Haven Style Pizzeria in Boca
Raton, FL (reviewed HERE).
Conclusions
More so than any other American pizza I've tried, a Trenton
tomato pie is balanced, nuanced. Pizzaioli ruin otherwise fine pizzas by the notion
that more is better. "Cheese is
good; more cheese! I love their sauce,
more please!" But that tactic
backfires with pizza. When the cheese or sauce is applied in excess, the crust
suffers, the yin strains its yang, the feng cannot shui, the tip droops, and
mother nature cries. You don't need to fold your tomato pie slice to keep the
toppings on as you eat it. In fact, if you can fold it, something is wrong.
THIS never happens with a tomato pie. Yuck. |
The Trenton tomato pie is, for me, the pinnacle in the
pizza family. Each bite delivers a hearty crunch, then a satisfying chew,
bright, tangy, concentrated tomato flavor, with the adhesion of nicely browned
cheese. No cheese is sliding off in gloopy clumps, you can hold a slice in one
hand, and all the flavors and textures are in harmony.
I'm glad for the current wild popularity of Neapolitan
pizza, because it celebrates great ingredients and technique. But if the best
pie you've had is Neapolitan, you need to make a trip to Trenton or
Robbinsville. You can have destination pizza without the wet center.
You must make the trip to Salerno's Apizza in Stratford, Connecticut. Every year around this time they offer an off the hook fresh plum tomato pizza that is sui generis, in my opinion. It may not qualify as a true tomato pie in the strictest sense of the term because it includes mozzarella and grated cheeses as well as pesto but it is divine nonetheless. And those fresh plum tomatoes!
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, this week might be the last week these gems are available until next year but sometimes the fresh tomato supply lasts until the first week of September. I'll be picking up my sixth and seventh pie of the season tonight.
Jimmy,
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing that! I went to their FB site and can tell from the pics that this is a great pie. I'm surprised that they haven't yet gotten attention from the pizza cognescenti at Slice - SeriousEats. CT is a long way from home but I'd love to get there for that pie. Here in PA and in NJ, we get fresh local tomatoes all thru Sep and even into Oct. Maybe they won't run out so soon?
I love the love for Trenton pies! But....
ReplyDelete"The Trenton version of tomato pie...does have important characteristics that make it different from...other legendary pizzas like Totonno's of Coney Island...the assembly is reversed...the cheese...goes on before the "sauce" which is mostly crushed tomato."
Actually, Totonno's is the same in this regard. Check out this blog for pics:
http://thefoodienista.blogspot.com/2012/06/totonnos-pizzeria-napolitana-new-york.html
Emilia, Thanks for that - learned something today! I had a Totonno's pie and didn't realize it. The key is to let the cheese peek through - if the sauce buries the cheese, the texture will never be right. PQ
ReplyDeleteYou didn't actually have the Tomato Pie at Pepe's if what you ate what is in the picture. The Tomato Pie with garlic and oregano has no cheese, maybe a dusting of parm, and it's heaven on earth.
ReplyDeleteGreat post about tomato pies! I've only had Papa's but it was excellent.
ReplyDeleteI grew up in a small town in South Jersey [Riverside] on the Delaware River not far from Philadelphia across the river. In the 1940's and early '50's we regularly got tomato pies from Rose's Tomato Pie, a small little one man operation. The thinnish crust was a bit "leathery" on the bottom and there was always some nice char on the top crust. The pie had a rich, generous tomato sauce and a nice amount of mozzarella cheese. No other toppings. I never even heard the word "pizza" until my freshman year at Rutgers in 1959. To me, I rarely ever see or taste a "pizza" that combines the same trinity of taste--great crust, wonderful [and enough] tomato sauce, and a quality cheese crisped with tiny burnt points! Only in a coal-fired pizza place in NYC, a place in Brooklyn, a local pizzeria in San Francisco, and a local place in Vincenza, Italy, have I ever appreciated a "tomato pie" so much.
ReplyDeleteDoc, See this blog for my loving tribute to Rose's, the tomato pie that defined "pizza" for me. RHS '74
DeleteTomato Pie in and around Utica, NY has a very specific meaning and it is very similar to what can be found in and around Philadelphia, PA. Only three ingredients: crust, sauce and sprinkled hard grated parmesan and/or romano cheese. Can be found in pizzerias, grocery store bakeries and Italian provisions shops and other bakeries throughout the region. They are rectangular and are usually cut "party-style" into squares as they tend to be popular at birthday parties (I ate many slices at many classmates' birthday parties as a kid!), football parties and pretty much any house gathering where food is served. Loved by many and detested by some (Many in my family no longer eat it as they just burned out on it over the years, while I still LOVE it and now I no longer worry about missing out on a corner slice.), locals will debate which place makes the best version. For me, the tomato pie at Roma Sausage & Deli on Bleecker Street in Utica, NY is the yardstick by which I measure all others. Chewy, focaccia-like crust, sweet chunky sauce and a liberal sprinkling of hard, grated cheese are the perfect trio for days-long snacking. Most places in the region only sell by the half or whole sheet and some require 24 hour pre-ordering, so it's best to phone ahead. Oh, don't even think of popping in 30 minutes before closing and finding any left as most places sell out long before the end of business.
ReplyDeleteLovely! I hope to get back to that region at some future point
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